Covering Sports with Daniel Esteve

[00:00:02] Speaker A = Kelly Walker: Hi, and welcome to this episode of Hustle and Pro. I'm your host, Kelly Walker, and today we have a sports media friend with us in the studio. In this studio again. We got to come be in the Dallas Cowboys studio at The Star. So excited to be here and excited to talk to you, so welcome, Daniel. [00:00:21] Daniel Esteve = Speaker B: Thank you, Kelly. Always a good time getting to chat with you. And this. This setup is probably one of the cooler setups I've been to. Absolutely. [00:00:29] Speaker A: I'm going to try to say your last name correctly. Give me a shot. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Oh, I love it. Here we go. [00:00:33] Speaker A: So, Daniel. Esteve. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Esteve. Yeah, that was good. [00:00:37] Speaker A: I practiced. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Obviously, it's not common knowledge, but when you think about the vowels in Spanish, A, E, O, U, E. It's just that sound the whole way. Esteve. And there's no accent, so people think like Emilio Estevez from, you know, the Breakfast Club, Mighty Ducks, or fun fact, for those that don't know, Charlie Sheen's actual name is Carlos Estevez. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:59] Speaker B: They're brothers. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I knew they were brothers. [00:01:00] Speaker B: And my little brother's name is Carlos, so we always run into that little funny, that little pickle. But people think that there's an accent on the first e or the second e, and so it's Esteve or something like that. [00:01:10] Speaker A: I'm sure it gets mispronounced just that same name. [00:01:12] Speaker B: E. Steve is my favorite, though. [00:01:14] Speaker A: E. Steve. [00:01:14] Speaker B: I've heard that one quite a bit, I'm sure. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Yes. Well, okay, so I threw on my Rough Riders jersey over my shirt today because I feel that's how I first met you. Maybe a couple Rough Riders media days. Days ago. A couple years ago. But that's what I always think, kind of how I know you. So, yeah, I think Rough Riders love here very much. [00:01:33] Speaker B: The beginning. I mean, really, anything Frisco related, I feel like I've seen you popped around, and it always puts a smile on my face. But, yeah, the Rough Riders, in terms of access and just how neat the team is, I stand by it. One of the very best minor league ballparks, if not ballparks in the country. They do so many cool things out there. And to see Kelly is always an added bonus to forced me to make that drive up the tollway up here. [00:01:56] Speaker A: No, I try to be there as much as I can. I feel like they're my home away from home. But I get to work with you through my real job. And so now I thought, oh, I'll get to talk to you through the podcast. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Unbelievable. Yeah. The blend of Two worlds. [00:02:08] Speaker A: I know. I want to start with, in your words, like your origin story of how you got to be sports as your job. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Interesting. Well, I mean, back when I was younger, the idea was to be a meteorologist. Quickly realized there's a lot of math involved, and that just doesn't compute up in this brain. Now, I had the fortunate blend of being a younger brother to an older sister who was super into music theater. And so whenever she'd go, my mom would just send me and my little brother. My older brother was just old enough to be able to say, no, we didn't have that luxury. So got plenty of music theater experience as a kid, coupled that with my sports background, and just figured, well, shoot, the best way to blend those two things is by doing any kind of sports broadcast. So back in high school, we started a little TV show and then ended up going to school for that. And the rest is the. [00:02:57] Speaker A: I almost wrote down and was thinking through what I was gonna talk to you about. Did you do, like, high school? I was gonna say, did you do high school, like, TV broadcast or the kid on the news that covers the high school course? [00:03:08] Speaker B: Yes. So this is actually one of my favorite things, just to be able to highlight the people I got to do this with. So because our school was very small down in South Texas, Brownsville, Texas, so maybe a lot of your listeners will know South Padre island, or maybe they won't know because they forgot a couple wicked weeks down at South Padre Island. But on the border across from Matamoros, Mexico, came from a school called St. Joseph Academy. Absolutely loved it, but it was just smaller. And there had been a TV show maybe 10, 15 years before I got to high school there. But I had a friend of mine in high school come up to me and say, hey, I know you want to be a sports broadcaster. I want to be a film director. And we happen to be friends with the student council president, who obviously could make things happen already. We ended up putting together a show called Project Red. I believe those videos are still on YouTube. Traumatizing to think about, but something fun to go back and look at. And so my junior and senior year, we started that as a homecoming show, similar to what you see at other high schools. But the coolest thing about that is Sofia Carvallar. She was the president. She's doing some incredible things in engineering now. Well, Rogelio Martinez, who was the director, he works for Pixar now. [00:04:20] Speaker A: Wow. [00:04:20] Speaker B: And he has worked on some incredible movies. Like Luca was one of his that he worked on and he, like, won 1,000%, made his dream a reality. And so I'd like to say I did that because I wanted to be in sports podcast, but I'm comparing myself to somebody who's working for one of the most amazing animated studios on planet Earth. [00:04:39] Speaker A: That's great, though. That's a great story. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Shout out to both of them. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Okay. What are your chops, though, as a player? [00:04:45] Speaker B: Oh, a player. In what regard? [00:04:47] Speaker A: Sports. Athlete. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Goodness. Tell me. So one of the many blessings of going to a smaller high school is if you are. If you have any semblance of athleticism, they're throwing you into just about everything. So as a kid, I was fortunate enough to get chucked into a lot of different sports. My dad, he kicked in high school, was a quarterback, so member of the last state championship team for my high school. He ended up kicking for the SMU Mustangs in the early 80s. [00:05:13] Speaker A: That's great. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Yes. There are some funny stories related to that. I won't put him too much on blast, but there was a certain game against UT in 1983 that didn't go so well, and he may have missed field goal or two. That one. That one still stings. But so fortunately came from. From a healthy athletic background. Basketball was my primary sport, played a little bit through college through club sports, and I was on a scout team after a failed tryout. That's a story for another time. But baseball and football as well, the [00:05:41] Speaker A: biggest basketball players we know had failed tryouts. [00:05:43] Speaker B: You know, absolutely. And. And I'm just an activities guy, you know, I got into soccer 2017, and I know we've bonded quite a bit over this. I was fortunate enough to get an internship in London and was playing pickup soccer twice a week. I think that's when I really fell in love with the sport. But I also started a bowling club in high school and I've just picked up bowling. Back up disc golf, I'll do. [00:06:05] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Skateboarding, I'm really into right now, but I almost broke a wrist already. So, yeah, it's. If it's an activity, I'm pretty much into it. So there's not much that I stray away from. [00:06:17] Speaker A: It seems like then with all of that background and interest, you use that in your job now because you're on air and you have. You cover sports, but you cover basically everything, right? [00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:30] Speaker A: I mean, I just saw you doing. Was it drag racing? [00:06:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:33] Speaker A: I mean, you're doing. I mean, there's really nothing you're not. If it's sports related. Or activity based. Like you'll share it, right? [00:06:38] Speaker B: 100%. In addition to so Sports, which stands for smile often sports, which is a story in its own right that I host with CW33 here in Dallas. I got roped into hosting an auto show, Fast and functional. We like to joke that Brittany Breeding, my co host, she's fantastic. She's the fast. Cause she races autocross on the weekend. She is fascinating. And then I'm more the hey, what's the best minivan to take to soccer practice? Now I've lent myself into more of an off roading, kind of cool, technical driving situation with the show and I've enjoyed that and I've kind of gotten into that as well. But my theory, Kelly, and I think it reigns true since I've moved to Dallas, is the more interests and hobbies I can have, the more friends I can make. So I'm super nerdy and into video games. And we were just chatting with our podcast producer here at the Dallas Cowboy Studios. He's into Call of Duty right now. I love the fact that that's something I can touch to. I'm really into anime. And that led to a really cool story with Daniel Gafford and the Dallas Mavericks. Max Christie as well. Gotta shout him out too. Is a huge anime fan. [00:07:36] Speaker A: So it just kind of does help in your world. [00:07:38] Speaker B: I mean, anything. Yeah. And it just makes it more fun. [00:07:41] Speaker A: Similarities, connections, conversations. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Obviously I'd like to think about it from a professional perspective, how I can move my career forward. But I feel like that's gonn fall into place to be able to enjoy the ride, just meeting great people along the way. If I can find something that. That breaks that ice, then then all the better. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. That. That actually brings me sort of into my next question then. You cover all things, all sports, but you're covering them on a regional basis. Right. So you're. Anything that happens in the DFW area, sports wise, you might go talk about it or share that with your audience. But if. If everything as of tomorrow, you had say in everything you do, ownership of everything, would you cover a single sport or a single league or a single team? Like, what would your like, dream? Here's what I'm gonna do for a while. Choice be Kelly. [00:08:33] Speaker B: I think about that so often. [00:08:34] Speaker A: You do? [00:08:35] Speaker B: I do. And it's in part because of an ever changing media landscape. I mean, us just being in the studio is such a great example of how much we've stepped forward in a few years. Fortunately, my team at C does Give me a lot of autonomy over how I cover things, what I cover, what the energy of the show looks like. And because of that, I kind of treat it as a sandbox. We're actually kind of under construction right now over the summertime, switching up what I want that show to be. So I'm answering that question for myself right now. If I'm thinking about what my dream, what my dream content focus would be, I think in a perfect world, I don't know if you've seen that Apple TV show with Eugene Levy where he kind of travels around the world. I'm blanking on the name of the show, but I guess throughout his career he was an unwilling traveler. And so they have done a show where he travels to all these incredible places. I would love to do something in the frame of that concept, but with sport just exploring all the unique, different sports that are sprinkled all around the world and create a show around that. I think that's a more high production, more like Netflix style. But from a news perspective. I have absolutely, in great timing, fallen in love with soccer. And I got the chance to cover St. Louis City's inaugural year both in MLS Next Pro and then MLS during my time in St. Louis. And I just think soccer's got a ton of momentum in the U.S. obviously, I've got a lot of family worldwide who are obviously huge fans. And then I just think the sport itself is unique in how it brings a community together. Because I think community and sport, they go hand in hand. It doesn't matter what sport it is, but the way soccer does it is just a bit more unique. And so if I, if I had to cover one sport or do something in a single sport, I think soccer would be probably where I leaned. And to further answer your question, I do have a hard time spreading myself around a couple sports or whole network, especially in DFW where there are unbelievable amounts of options. Yeah, it. I do get jealous of some of the incredible beat writers out there that are like folks that just sing. We have some incredible beat writers. [00:10:42] Speaker A: And then you are expert in that. [00:10:45] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:10:46] Speaker A: You know, every, like I've noticed this going back to baseball, like when I help with the college tournament. Right. Every year. And there's obviously a big difference in me who's just watching Alabama play here for three days versus the guy sitting next to me asking questions. Is it every practice? He knows every player's mannerisms, he can tell that swing looked a little weird. Is that still bothering him from 10 days ago, his left rib like you can really get in the minutia when you're following a team or work for a team. And that was. The other thing is, like, would you ever work on the team side instead of the media side? [00:11:21] Speaker B: That's. That's another one of the elements of this ever changing media industry. I mean, you look at the Dallas Cowboys. What a great example. This podcast studio, some of the media members they have working for their team. I mean, my goodness, the resources you have, you're essentially doing the same job, but you've got that audience that knows your brand, loves your branding, etc. There's so many different options now. It can get overwhelming, but for. For kids that are coming out of college, like, the opportunities are endless. And you also have the resources to produce your own content as well, which I think is huge, but it can be a little overwhelming, for sure. And by no means am I saying that being a beat writer is easier, because, my goodness, especially baseball beat writers. 162 plus spring training plus postseason, absolute grind. Not sure I could even handle it. And it kind of goes against the M.O. of trying to, you know, touch base in all these different waters to make more and more friends, to single myself out. But, yeah, I do have a soft soccer. And you are focused. Yeah. On that single group that you're with day in and day out. So. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Okay, well, the soccer buzz is here, so maybe that might be why you say that right now. But you never know. In a year you're gonna say golf. [00:12:26] Speaker B: Who knows golf? Oh, my God. Maybe it's cars. I mean, this fast and functional show has got me thinking Top Gear. Yeah. Golf has been fantastic. Golf has a lot of heavy roots just through my family. My dad was a big player. My. My. Well, I'm so. On my dad's side was a huge player. My older brother's a fantastic golfer. Little brother's a fantastic golfer. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Which golf brothers that I meet or which brothers that I meet with you golfing that day? [00:12:50] Speaker B: So both. So, yeah, my two brothers. It's four of us. Older sister, older brother, younger brother. I'm in the middle of the boys. Older brother, younger brother. Oh, wait, I take that back. Yeah, little brother was there as well, so older brother is by far the best. [00:13:05] Speaker A: Which one got that birdie and screamed, and we were all, like, excited for him? [00:13:09] Speaker B: That was crazy, Kelly. I forgot about that. Oh. Because we were jumbled up. I can't tell you which hole that was because we started on nine or 10. Well, it was right by the halfway house, but there's, like, Six, four, five holes kind of in around that area. Yeah. Carlos, hold out from, like, 1:52 with Kelly in attendance. I didn't even see it because I had sent mine about 60 yards. Right. So I was looking for my ball. I have got nervous. [00:13:34] Speaker A: Say hi to you guys. And I didn't want to pass you before. I didn't want to, like, pass you before you play through. So I was just sitting there chilling, and then I look up, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. He's. He was, like, running through the fairway across the green and celebrating to make sure it was in the. [00:13:46] Speaker B: I don't know how many hole outs he's had, especially that distance. [00:13:49] Speaker A: That was fun. [00:13:49] Speaker B: That was impressive. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Okay. We were talking a little about your family, but I want to hear with what you do now and your face and voice on screen, covering sports, what were the voices you were watching grow up? Kind of made you think, I could do that. I want to do that. [00:14:05] Speaker B: I've met so many people in the industry who are like, this local broadcaster was my inspiration. And to be honest, I didn't watch a ton as a kid. Obviously, I grew up in the area where ESPN was certainly at its peak. And I think for me, the voice that resonated the most was Tony Reali, who's certainly an example for a lot of younger kids my age, but just his positivity. I also loved his role on around the horn. For over 20 years, he didn't necessarily serve as the hot take guy or the analyst. He was just the facilitator. And I loved that role because essentially, his only goal was bringing those four journalists together in conversation. [00:14:44] Speaker A: A connector which goes back to what you're good at. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Exactly. And, you know, I've never been one to be a hot taker guy or be, you know, too controversial. I also am very aware of the fact that there are some fantastic investigative journalists and serious journalists out there, and that's just not my strong suit. But I love to facilitate conversation. I love to have conversations, and I love to meet, you know, a new handful of guests weekend and week out. And so I felt like that role was just fantastic. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Okay, I have a couple favorite questions for you. [00:15:15] Speaker B: Oh, I love it. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Favorite interview. I think I'm gonna. I think I know what you're gonna say, but I'm curious, what has your favorite interview been? [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the easy answer is just the bucket list. Got the chance to chat with Dirk. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Dirk? I thought you were gonna say Dirk. [00:15:30] Speaker B: It's just one of those things when I was in St. Louis. I got the chance to talk to so many fantastic people. I mean, I had an Albert Pujols fathead on my wall, was actually right next to my Dirk Nowitzki fathead. And it was one of those, you know, don't meet your heroes type things, which I don't believe in. But. But Albert. Albert was a professional setting. You know, it was kind of. It felt like a regular trip to the Cardinals locker room. Because he was a player at the time. Dirk was a sit down. This is his event. I've got seven and a half to eight minutes with him. I typically don't feel pressure with conversations because at the end of the day, you know, I'm not really an interviewer. We're just sitting for a chat. Yeah, but there was something about him. [00:16:13] Speaker A: I know how excited you were. I know. [00:16:15] Speaker B: But for him to not only live up to expectation, but exceed him, I mean, we chatted to our point just about soccer. And it's so disappointing that he's an Arsenal fan, but, you know, I had Steve Nash on the Tottenham side supporting me there, and we just had such a fantastic chat. Actually, I've been working social media as best I can, trying different styles out, and I put a video about not meeting your heroes, and I. I firmly believe, no, meet him. [00:16:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Because it's. It was such a treat. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Go for it. Yeah. Especially somebody like him. I do love his nat, Steve Nash and his, like, soccer relationship. I think that's awesome. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Okay. Favorite golfer? [00:16:51] Speaker B: Oh, golf. [00:16:52] Speaker A: You like to golf? We just talked about it. [00:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Who's your guy? [00:16:55] Speaker B: Absolutely super interesting. I was never a big Roy guy. I grew up, kind of went through that Jordan Spieth phase when he kind of really hit the scene. And there's obviously Tiger. Speaking of, don't meet your heroes. I was a big Matt Kucher fan for a while and I heard some. Some sketchy stories. My brother met him at a baseball game and it didn't go too well. So it's tough with golfers. I typically have guys that I'm rooting for. I think right now it's disappointing because he's on live, but given the Spanish ties, I mean, Ja Rahm was a golfer I really gravitated towards, really loved watching. As far as one in particular, I probably have to go. Jordan. Just in terms of who I'm rooting for, I will be honest. And maybe it's a controversial take. I drank the Rickie Fowler Kool Aid. I had like one of those orange Puma hats for a Little bit. So I'd be remiss not to throw that in there as well. [00:17:46] Speaker A: I got to. I made it a point, too. I was working at PGA Championship this year, but I made it a point. I watched all day. I was like, okay, I'm gonna watch Jordan tee off on one on Championship Sunday. And so I inched my way up close to get a good angle. And at first, I was taking a video. I wanted to hear the announcer. I wanted to get that on video just for myself. And then I put my. Everybody had their phones up, and I turned my phone off. I was like, this is not gonna be a good video of him peeing off. So I'm like, I just wanna see it. Like, I just wanna remember being in the moment. Cause that is kind of a pet peeve of when everybody's at a sporting event in person and they're just watching through their phone. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Oh, that's like the beauty of Augusta now, right? They've been. [00:18:26] Speaker A: The advantage you get is never gonna be as good as what you think it is. And so. And you're not really gonna use it. So, like, just watch it. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Just the photos that you see of these people, like, no phones. It looks like something from 15, 20 years ago. It's ridiculous, but it's pure. [00:18:39] Speaker A: I like that. [00:18:40] Speaker B: 100. Yeah. She was not a fan, but my now wife was at the 2018 PGA Championship. I believe Brooks Koepka won at Belle Reeve in St. Louis, but it was like, Tigers comeback finished second. And it was just before he ended up winning the Masters the following year. This was like the Tiger Return Tour. And her father, my father in law being military, got free tickets. She was there on the final day following tiger up 17 and 18 in the hunt. And she tells me about that all the time. She's like, I didn't know two licks about golf, but to be able to experience one of the most iconic moments in golf history, I mean, she is 100% drinking the Kool Aid when it comes to. To that experience. Hopefully we get that at Fields Ranch [00:19:26] Speaker A: next year for sure. Favorite sporting event. [00:19:32] Speaker B: Ooh. Well, ask me again in a month. Perhaps the World cup will take one of those stages or think or have [00:19:39] Speaker A: you like, something you've experienced. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I think that's kind of where my mind goes. I always. I always love to think about it from a fan perspective first because. Because I get some. Some really neat access. But, you know, there's always that element of work. I think the World Cup, I'm going to try to do a Good job of. Even though, you know, I'm working, I do have the flexibility through my job to take it from a fan perspective. So the content I'm going to produce isn't, well, who won today? It's going to be, well, what is this experience like? So I'm going to try to immerse myself from that perspective, but I think that is where my mind goes. 2014, I was at the Ohio State, Oregon National Championship. And then fast forward to I'm blanking on the year now. It must have been 22 or 21. I was at the Cotton bowl between Ohio State and Mizzou, working it. So that kind of full circle moment for me, being on the field and off the field as a fan was really neat. [00:20:30] Speaker A: But my combo of the two. [00:20:32] Speaker B: Oh, you have a favorite. [00:20:33] Speaker A: You're about to say a favorite. [00:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I think the actual favorite, just because of the raw motion of it, was my first Tottenham match. My again now wife, girlfriend. At the time, it surprised me with tickets. We were on a trip. I got to see Tottenham, Liverpool, and I. [00:20:47] Speaker A: That's great. [00:20:48] Speaker B: Was shedding tears walking into the stadium. And I'm an emotional guy, but I don't physically get emotional a ton. And it was just. It's. [00:20:57] Speaker A: That's huge. [00:20:57] Speaker B: The singing, the. The picture of the south stand. We were on the north side, so I got to just kind of see the wall. It was a fantastic game, and it was. [00:21:07] Speaker A: That's great. [00:21:07] Speaker B: It just felt so far away because, of course, we're treated being here in the US and being close to the Metroplex or being in St Louis, wherever I was to having all these sports and heroes right around us. You know, you see Dirk, and then you get to go watch Dirk at the ac Harry Kane, you know, son, Young Min. I got to see Dele Alli play. Like, those guys just felt so far away. And to see them up close for the first time was unbelievable. [00:21:33] Speaker A: Well, it's funny. It's like you read my notes before we sat down, because I have a hypothetical for you, a couple hypotheticals for you, and one of them, you mentioned your lovely new wife. Congrats. Your newlywed. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Thank you. Yeah. November. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. [00:21:46] Speaker B: I was like, I need a little bit of time. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So it's a Monday night, and I wrote Natty. So national championship is on tv. Also, the Bachelor. Is your wife the kind of like, what's the scene in your house? Are y' all watching one of those together? Are you watching separate things? Is she, like, locked into the sports with you? [00:22:05] Speaker B: She's a supporter of me. I should say so. If it's Tottenham, she knows that I'm gonna be watching. As far as tv, she's not super, super locked in on any shows in particular. Right now she's trying to finish Gilmore Girls, so she'll throw Gilmore Girls on every now and again. We've got a huge debate, as most people do, that are fans of the show, on who's the best guy for. For Rory. Rory's just got to get her act together. We're in the last season. I mean, yeah, unfortunately, social media spoiled the end for me, but we're like 17, 20 years too late. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:38] Speaker B: So, you know, that's probably on us. [00:22:39] Speaker A: It's such a good show. [00:22:40] Speaker B: It really is. The nostalgia factor going back to just a time with no phones is probably my favorite part about it. But I'd say on a typical day, if I'm watching any kind of sporting event, NBA Finals going on right now is a great example. She's been super into art. One of the cool things that came out of COVID is she started tinkering with clay, and she started a page called Ann Made Clay just as a little side hobby. Overnight, like 35,000 Instagram followers were like, what is going on? And she's some super biased. Wildly talented. Started selling these earrings as she got finished PA school, got her job with MD Anderson. Now she's with UT Southwestern. She kind of put it on the back burner, but now she's getting back into. She's kind of shifted into just Anne made. So she's painting a little bit. She still does clay. She's. Yeah. Wildly talented. So I'd say any given night, she's cool with me watching whatever I'm watching. Maybe sneaking in a little Nintendo or something because I'm 6 years old. She's got her art and she's like, in the next room. [00:23:41] Speaker A: Love it. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Within eye contact, though. That's like a secret superpower of being married or being in any relationship together, but apart, comfortable together. [00:23:49] Speaker A: And you can say something even if you're not speaking. Earshot. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. There's something about being across the house that's funny. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I hear you. That's funny. Okay, then, one last hypothetical or scenario. You touched on this a minute ago, but big game, whatever that is to you when you think of that. Maybe it's soccer. Do you prefer being on the sideline? Being in the stands as a fan, Being there in person, but in a suite, in a luxury hospitality situation, out with people out, bar situation or watching, like, from the comfort of your home with control of all the elements. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Kelly, I've thought about this question so much. [00:24:35] Speaker A: We have strong, like, takes in our household, so 100%. [00:24:39] Speaker B: I want to hear your take too, on that conversation. Having, you know, gotten to experience, obviously the press box, that's obviously fantastic. In soccer, they'll put you in the stands. Basketball, do they do the same thing where you kind of have a media row? I just don't think as cool as the access is there, it's just not quite the experience. And then as far as being a fan in the stadium, I think it's very sports specific. If it's soccer, I'd rather be in the stadium, and I've been in those hospitality sections. Being in the standing fan section is the only way to go if you're a soccer fan, if you're able, willing, can stand. Obviously there's like, so many variables there, but if. If you can make that happen and experience that as it's meant to be, great. However, Kelly, in my dream world, especially with the beauty that are, you know, pl Mornings, especially on Sundays in the fall, you get a 10:30 game that segues perfectly into NFL action at noon. My dream would be to have a group of like four to eight individuals. Couples, friends, whatever it may be. And every Sunday that there's a Tottenham game and a cowboy game or whatever it may be, I cook, breakfast, host. We have like a little. We've talked about it, like, if we could have one of those, like, separate garages in the back. Like, convert that into like a little pub. [00:25:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:56] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:25:57] Speaker A: You want your own sports bar? [00:25:58] Speaker B: Yes. Like a little. Yeah, Something super cool. A hundred percent. With the whole. With the whole setup, you know, I just think you get the comfort of being home. I was also this way in college. Like, as high energy as I am, the second I, like, get into a bar, go out, I kind of. I shrivel. So if I could host like a house party, a couple friends with drinks [00:26:18] Speaker A: and whatever, it makes sense. And the going out scenario is too risky for me because I can't tell you how many times we're like, maybe if we're going to watch a tech game or something, we go and like, if you have to beg to get that TV to be showing your game that you went there to watch, that's annoying. Or then the audio situation, maybe it's blasting loud on air, and then for commercials, it changes and it's techno music, I don't know. [00:26:46] Speaker B: Or they don't have the Right game. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Just the vibe isn't like you aren't control of it and so. Or you don't get the seat or I don't know. Yeah. The right game. All the things. [00:26:54] Speaker B: And yeah, to your point, like there are good examples of it. Like I did a story with the Dallas spurs, one of the largest spurs fan groups in the country, and they meet at the Irishman Pub, which is like just north of Dallas. I think it's technically Addison area. I may be getting that wrong. But a fantastic pub and it's super cool and super decorated and every Tottenham game even it's a. If it's at 6am like they. They are open. [00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah. They should be good at it. [00:27:20] Speaker B: I've Exactly. And I've experienced watching games. They are awesome. But even as awesome as that is, I find myself hugging my dog and stressed watching a game on the couch. And so I feel like that's kind of the answer for me. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker B: Is I just. In a perfect scenario, I have people who are just excited to watch this game, but also want to make a little tradition out of it. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Yeah. But also they have to be the right people if they're in your house because of course. And it's all. It is sports based for me too. In person for like my Frisco sports, you know, my Rough Riders minor league baseball. I'll be there in person in the stands. Right. When our. Behind home plate. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:54] Speaker A: All day. Because I don't watch Rough Riders on tv. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Like that's, that's baseball is one of those too. [00:27:59] Speaker A: And I like watching baseball on tv. But I. But for me it's also like go to a game in person at least once a season. But mostly watch from my house and like you said, working from the sideline or press box. To me, I don't think press box is fun because it's so subdued and business and everybody's typing on their laptops, especially hockey. It's intense in a quiet way to where you're not enjoying it. Right. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:26] Speaker A: And so if you're a fan of what you're covering, it is not a fun experience. Experience. It's. It's not boring. But you're also looking at it a different way. You might be taking notes in different, you know, portions of the game. And so it's just not like my preference, not my job. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah. From a TV perspective, you're. You're just waiting for the post game presser at that point. Like you're watching obviously to look for any kind of potential talking points. If you've got a live shot coming up. Maybe you're writing a script or two, but for the most part, yeah, you're just sitting there watching. [00:28:58] Speaker A: And I do love a sweet situation in some times. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Kelly's bougie. [00:29:03] Speaker A: It depends. [00:29:04] Speaker B: She's bougie. [00:29:05] Speaker A: It depends. When I'm hosting, I do have to host in suites a lot. That is hard. Every time I host, I watch almost none of the game because I'm worried about who's coming in. There's constant texts on my tickets, this or that, constant managing of the guests and people. And then, you know, the wait staff talks to you constantly about refreshing and this and signing the bill and it's over. And I'm like, what even happened on the field? You know, we got to do a Cubs game last year where I hosted in a suite and I really wanted to just be sitting in the stands watching every pitch. But like, I didn't see much of the game because I'm talking to the 20 people that we asked to come talk to us. [00:29:45] Speaker B: You do that often. You do it well, but you do that often. [00:29:48] Speaker A: But I would prefer to be in a suite, not hosting so that I can actually sit and watch. So when I do get the chance to do that, I do like that for some sports personally, for fun, as a fan, I want to be watching it. And I can't take non sporty women with me or like the guests of women because if they sit by me and try to like talk to me the whole time. Yeah, I usually don't want to. Like, I'm fine talking about what's going on on the field or court or whatever, to who, you know, whatever. But like, if a friend or someone that I'm just meeting for the first time and it's a female and she's not going to watch the game if she's like literally like turned to the side talking to me and is like, oh my gosh, did you, you know, what's to talk about? Something unrelated. Like, I can't. I'm just like, I don't want to be rude, but like, I just don't want to chit chat about normal life during a sporting event. [00:30:38] Speaker B: The folk, the folks listening won't see this, but I need a direct camera right here. Do not sit with Kelly unless, you know, ball at whatever sporting event you're coming with. Do not. [00:30:50] Speaker A: I know it sounds, but that's just like if I'm there in person, that's what I want. [00:30:54] Speaker B: It's part of that experience of having that dream world where You've got that group of four to eight people that you know you can trust that are going to be all excited about coming over on a Sunday morning to watch XYZ sport. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Exactly. Okay, well, that's all I had on my nifty notepad here, and I know that I'll see you soon and we'll chat more sports off air, but thank you. [00:31:14] Speaker B: That's the problem, Kelly, is I'm supposed to go and work at some of these things and I'm rarely. People like to say, oh, Daniel, like you're the only sports guy at cw. You must be working so hard. And I'm like, honestly, compared to like the daily grind of local news. I host a weekly show. I feel like I've got so much time. [00:31:29] Speaker A: You got time to put it all together. [00:31:30] Speaker B: The problem is I end up chatting with you for like an hour and forgetting what I'm actually supposed to be doing. So this was a nice step away from actually feeling like I'm flaking on my work. [00:31:39] Speaker A: There's a lot of built in downtime in sports media as well. [00:31:42] Speaker B: You know, there really is. [00:31:43] Speaker A: Like we stand and wait for players and wait for this and wait for the PR team to tell us where to be and who we can talk to and all that good stuff. But no, thank. Thanks for jumping in here. This is part of my work for Visit Frisco. We did this just to kick away campaign that, you know, you see the brand, but it was really all an idea to show people that aren't always in Frisco, like what's here and talk about it and work with some different media or influencers and just creators to get them up here and say like, look, we're in Frisco. Like look it up, you know. And so you've now taken advantage of the Dallas Cowboys Star Studio and the PGA of America Studio. So thanks for participating in our little project. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Does not happen without you, Kelly. As many of the really cool things I've gotten to do both in Frisco and kind of the Metroplex in general. But I'd throw that away for just all those conversations we've had anyways, and obviously the friendship beyond that. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Awesome. Thank you. That's so nice. All right, well, I'll wrap it up by thanking everyone for watching or listening to this episode of Hustle and Pro. However you get your podcasts, we should. 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