Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Kelly Walker: Welcome to this episode of Hustle and Pro. I'm your host, Kelly Walker, and today we're talking to Karlina Sample. Karlina is a former collegiate athlete and also from Frisco. Welcome to the show.
[00:00:12] Karlina: Thank you for having me.
[00:00:14] Kelly: Well, thanks for coming. Okay, there's a lot. So I've only known you for a short time, but when I was researching you, I'm like, okay, we've got so much to talk about.
So just kind of overall, you, your sport, you know, your college sport that you went to go play school at school for is soccer.
[00:00:31] Karlina: Right.
[00:00:32] Kelly: But I know that you did other things. So rewind a little bit and tell me about like you and your multi sports kind of growing up, your. Your sports outlook.
[00:00:40] Karlina: Oh, wow. Okay, we are going back. Okay. I, yeah, soccer was the sport that I stuck with the longest.
I tried basketball and track as well.
I did volleyball in middle school. You know, you're young, trying to get into all the sports that you can, but I don't know, I think I stayed consistent with soccer. I think the three sports I stayed longest with were basketball, track and soccer.
I let go of basketball and only played in high school. I think I was just athletic and I was just could do it and like capable of doing it.
Um, and then that kind of fizzled out and track really translated to the other sports just with speed and form. And all the sports that I were in outside of basketball or outside of volleyball really included a lot of running, so.
[00:01:32] Kelly: Yeah, like the conditioning side.
[00:01:34] Karlina: Yeah, exactly.
[00:01:34] Kelly: Okay, so I know you're being humble. So you weren't just a little bit of basketball and a little bit of track. Right. So you, you played varsity basketball when you were a freshman.
[00:01:44] Karlina: I did.
[00:01:44] Kelly: Okay, so that's something.
And were a sprinter and you have all kinds of, you know, titles and awards and things.
And a little bit of middle school too. But in high into high school, yeah, summer job. You were good at this.
[00:02:00] Karlina: Well, all my. I have three siblings. We all ran track together at Prestonwood and Plano. We ran for this club called the Jackrabbits. And the coach was a former NFL player.
His wife was a former collegiate athlete in track and field as well at lsu.
And they were a tight knit family and just the group and the team felt like family and friends and just built a lot of camaraderie. And so, yeah, we did do well at a young age. Like we were in Junior Olympics a couple of times.
I think the events that I stuck with and enjoyed running were the 200 and 400 and then I would do some relays outside of that. But I think soccer I enjoyed the longest because I enjoyed the challenge of the ball, a ball being at your feet versus in your hands and how like abnormal that was. And just the technicalities and the concentration and the focus and like a little bit of multitasking that it took to actually play. So I think I enjoyed that piece of the art of the challenge part.
[00:03:02] Kelly: It's unpredictable compared to sprinting and it is unpredictable. It's very like. Yeah, you have to be thinking on your toes. Okay, let's talk a little bit about soccer in high school.
Did you play? You played for you. Tell me about your club versus school. If you even did both
[00:03:17] Karlina:. Yeah, I did both. So I went through. I'll start with school. I played at Frisco High my freshman year.
Was it fresh? Just my freshman year. And then Reedy got built and I was rezoned to Reedy. But I didn't play soccer at Reedy. I only played. I played basketball at Reedy and I didn't play basketball at Frisco High, which is interesting. Yeah, so, but Frisco, I really enjoy playing high school soccer because all the girls there, we played club outside of the school. So we were all like just really, really good. And so I think we made it to a couple rounds into state that first year.
[00:03:53] Kelly: Fifth round of the playoffs.
[00:03:55] Karlina: Yeah.
[00:03:55] Kelly: Playoffs, yeah. Again varsity as a freshman and fifth round in the playoffs. Yeah, not bad.
[00:04:01] Karlina: Yeah. So that was a really fun year. Got really close to the girls and coach Laris as well. I still talk to her now and then club wise I went through couple of them. I think I started with Liverpool, then I went to FC Dallas and then I went back to Liverpool, I think. And at that point I think Solar had. Was in the process of buying out or some, some kind of collaboration between Solar and Liverpool. And so for a year I was dual rostering for my coach that was coaching me on Liverpool that eventually went under Solar. And then my new coach was Solar. So I was like playing twice as many games, twice as many teammates and coaches and it was really a lot. And then I only did that for a year and then I stuck with Solar Soccer Club until I graduated through high school.
[00:04:52] Kelly: Did you follow the same coach around all those clubs though?
[00:04:55] Karlina: I had a couple of coaches I'm trying to remember. I went were like Chris Pulpenk at Liverpool, Aaron Pratt at. And Chris Pratt, FC Dallas. The longest coach I stayed with was Adrian Silke with Solar Soccer Club. He just had a good Resume. Yeah, he was winning. He coached both the girls and boys side. So sometimes I'd practice with the men's team, sometimes I'd practice up with the teams. Like, he was just flexible in allowing us.
[00:05:22] Kelly: That's nice exposure.
[00:05:23] Karlina: Yeah, it was. It was.
[00:05:25] Kelly: You had a good run there. I wrote down three regional titles.
Best 11 in 2016, ECNL U16s and national playoffs.
[00:05:35] Karlina: Yeah.
[00:05:35] Kelly: What do you remember? Like, what's like, your. Your looking back. I mean, it's not that long ago, but you're running about 10 years ago.
[00:05:42] Karlina: I know.
[00:05:43] Kelly: What do you. What do you, like, look back and think about your solar days, your club days.
[00:05:47] Karlina: It was fun. Like, it was that. I think that was the most fun that I had playing soccer. That was the most winning I'd ever experienced.
My, like, teammates, I still stay in touch with a lot of my teammates now. We're still good friends. I still stay in touch with my coach from them now, and he's still like, we still reach out on birthdays.
[00:06:06] Kelly: And etc, so that's what it's supposed to be. It is good soccer, but also enjoy.
[00:06:10] Karlina: Yeah. I mean, honestly, all of my friends now have came from some kind of team or sports setting or intro at least. But I think those solo soccer days I always remember were fun. Like, when I think of going back to play soccer, if there's any time I could go back and play soccer, it's always during Solar Soccer Club in high school, because we were just good. Like, we were dominating and we were confident, but writing that fine line of humility at the same time. Okay.
[00:06:37] Kelly: I love it. That prepares you for. At some point, you realize, I can. I can play after this.
[00:06:43] Karlina: Right.
[00:06:44] Kelly: I could play in college. Just walk me through a little bit of, like, the recruiting process, when you actually realized, I'm gonna take the next step and where you ended up.
[00:06:55] Karlina: So the recruiting process for me was, I'm sure, way different than what it looks like now with nil and whatnot going on. I committed my sophomore year of high school. I want to say, I don't know when it clicked for me that I was able to go play in college. I think at the time, like, I'd seen the girls that were older than us, they were all going through their commitment processes. My friends, they started doing it and their teammates, and I was just like, well, I can hang. Like, if they can do it, I can do it.
[00:07:22] Kelly: It's just the thing. It was all around you.
[00:07:24] Karlina: Yeah. I was just surrounded by it. So I think it wasn't a Long shot, a natural progression.
[00:07:28] Kelly: Feel like it was a long shot if people.
[00:07:29] Karlina: I didn't feel like it was a long shot. Like I think I relied a lot on my athletic ability. Like it took me a long time or a long ways when I was younger athletically.
So I was just good. Like blessed to be good. And I don't think it was a long shot. I think it was more of like I was stressed to make the right decision and make sure I was taking all of my options into consideration and doing my own due diligence with my family. And so yeah, I went and visited a couple of schools at the time I really wanted to be a journalism major. So Mizzou was top of my list I had been to.
So I ended up at A and M. I'll fast forward and then go back. But at the before my first visit to A and m was at a 7v7 like just tournament that they were hosting that some of my solar teammates had gone down for. And I just did not like campus. I was like absolutely mad. I'm not coming here. No way.
[00:08:25] Kelly: A & M campus.
[00:08:26] Karlina: Yes. I didn't like it. I don't know why it is.
[00:08:29] Kelly: And I don't know everybody has bad days.
[00:08:31] Karlina: I don't know. I went on a bad day. And then you go back and you see a different part of it. I don't know what it was. I was just not feeling it. And I was like no. Like no. And I didn't know a girl is committed there at the time. But I don't know, it just wasn't clicking for me. Then I went back and I did an official visit and I think it's different for an official visit versus you're just following a team around, they take you in the locker room, they have to go back and play some games. Like I had other girls around me that were also committing or kind of on their visits and deciding their options. You get more time with coaches, you get the full camp tour, you get to see the current girls playing and their processes for game prep etc.
[00:09:12] Kelly: The official visit gives. It really does give you that like perspective of the student athlete.
[00:09:16] Karlina: Yeah. What it would be like to play there. Depth education of what your life could look like at that school. Because you go through the academic center, the cafeteria, they show you apartments, they show you where you will be living in all aspects of your college career.
[00:09:31] Kelly: Well, it's a big deal because committing to be a student athlete at a school like that It's a big commitment as a student. It's your life, right? I mean, people always say that you don't get to do other things. You're not working, you're not. There's no time for some of the traditional college student experience.
It's soccer.
[00:09:49] Karlina: It's soccer. Eat soccer. Class soccer, study soccer. Soccer, soccer, soccer.
[00:09:54] Kelly: And lots of soccering for you. So I wrote your freshman year, like, six games, three starts, and then started 10 games. Then the next year, which you had an injury I want to ask you about. Then your junior year, you start all games and senior year, all 18.
And do you remember your biggest, like, award?
I have it written down, so I'm going to say it, but I want you to say it if you remember.
[00:10:19] Karlina: Defensive player of the week of the Year. It wasn't of the year, I don't think.
[00:10:23] Kelly: SEC Defensive Player of the Year, was it?
[00:10:26] Karlina: Oh, it was co. It was me and Jimena. Jimena. Jimena.
[00:10:30] Kelly: So you had a teammate that also won that with you? Was it your teammate or some other.
[00:10:34] Karlina: It was my teammate. I was center back at the time. She was, I think, left back at the time. And I think. I think that was one of our better years, I want to say. Like, I think we were season champs that year, and then we went on to play postseason.
[00:10:47] Kelly: I would say if. If you're two of your defensive line are defensive people of the year, and your whole sec, y' all must have been really good.
So do you. Do you know how many games you.
[00:10:56] Karlina: Played for A and M in total? I have no idea.
[00:11:00] Kelly: 51.
[00:11:01] Karlina: Really? Yep.
[00:11:02] Kelly: And of those, 23 were shutouts.
[00:11:06] Karlina: Really?
[00:11:06] Kelly: Y' all were solid back there.
[00:11:08] Karlina: We were, yeah. I remember we were, like, really confident in our defense at the time. It was me, this girl named Breezy Jimena, and Jordan Hill, I think, and we were just like brick walls. I remember, like, we were. We were.
Not that we didn't care about the team, but, like, we wanted to keep our record of a shutout for the longest just because we were the talk at that time in the week. But, yeah, that was fun.
[00:11:33] Kelly: I love it. So, yeah, you were like, oh, I remember my solar days.
[00:11:36] Karlina: We were good.
[00:11:37] Kelly: And then I'm like, you were good at A & M. Y' all had a good team.
And I also think it's. It's impressive not just that you move on, you play at a big school like that, but that you played all four years and. And kept playing. So was the injury like a small blip? Was it a big injury?
[00:11:53] Karlina: Oh, yeah, it was big, big injury. It's my second big one. So I graduated high school early from Frisco ISD, and so I got to college in January of 2018. Normally, students will get there. Summer of 2018.
I had torn my ACL, like, a couple months before I got to school and graduated. So I came in injured, which is why I was only in a couple of games my freshman year, because I was still. I think I came back that summer. And so, like, I was slow to come back through preseason. People have been practicing, and they had a whole spring season underneath them, so I was playing a little bit of catch up. Yeah.
I think I started playing my postseason. I want to say, like, playoffs and tournament play after regular season my freshman year. Maybe it was. Or maybe it was sophomore year.
[00:12:42] Kelly: I think sophomore.
[00:12:43] Karlina: It was sophomore year. Yeah. And then during postseason, that's when I tore my other acl. Other me. Yes. It was not the same.
[00:12:50] Kelly: Unrelated.
[00:12:51] Karlina: Unrelated.
[00:12:52] Kelly: Because I'm sure I was thinking, did you go back too early? But no, it was.
[00:12:55] Karlina: No, it was like a whole different year. I was so confident. I was like, hustling, bustling on the ground, aggressive like I was.
[00:13:02] Kelly: That makes my stomach hurt just thinking of you. This. I mean, an injury is bad, but the second.
[00:13:08] Karlina: Yeah, I remember that vividly. You do? Yeah, I do. It was a no contact. We were playing against Florida in Florida. It was a no contact injury.
I remember the girl was running at me, and like, defense, it's a lot of change of direction. You kind of got to anticipate. So I think I was running towards her, and I think I saw her about to pass the ball or kick it past me. So instead of going in for a tackle, I think I changed my mind. I was like, oh, no, I'm just gonna. Like, she about to get it off her foot. Like, there's nothing for me to get. And when I planted to turn, it popped and I fell. And I. I just instantly knew people were trying to keep me optimistic and positive. And the doctor did, you know, the whole knee test and the whole. Yep, exactly. The whole flight home, they're like, well, we. We got to get an mri. We got to get our MRI first to know for sure. But, you know, you're just good. Your gut tells you. Yeah, I was right. I feel it. Yeah. I was like, thank you, guys. I know you're being nice, but.
[00:14:01] Kelly: Yeah, I mean, everybody wants to be positive, but, like, if you've had that injury before.
[00:14:05] Karlina: Yeah. Feel it.
[00:14:06] Kelly: You feel it?
[00:14:06] Karlina: Yeah. I was like, I better Prepare now.
[00:14:08] Kelly: Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. That sucks. That sucks. But wait. But then, like, okay, that was at the end of sophomore year because I'm like, well, you had a solid other two more years.
[00:14:17] Karlina: Oh, yeah, I came back. Oh, yeah, for sure.
[00:14:19] Kelly: Like, a lot of people wouldn't. I feel. I feel like a lot of people have been like, okay, I had some college time. I just tore my second, you know, acl. That could definitely.
[00:14:28] Karlina: Yeah, people. I think it's discouraging. I think now, like, unfortunately, ACL tears and injuries have become a lot more common. And I don't know if casual is the word, but casual, in a way. Yeah. When it. When you hear them, like, I feel like people aren't as surprised or they don't get as perked up when they hear someone tore their acl. Because it has just become that common within. Across the board of sports.
[00:14:55] Kelly: Across the board. But so much in women's sport. Yeah, it's just.
[00:14:59] Karlina: It's wild. How much. Yeah.
Women's soccer, a lot. So I thought two was, like, a lot because I had just came back, I had a great season.
But then I was like, oh, my gosh. I know people that have done three.
Four.
Four would be my max. Three would probably be my max. But I was just like, yeah, four. Three or four ACL tears. A girl on my team, she had done it hers three times.
[00:15:22] Kelly: Yeah, that's so.
[00:15:23] Karlina: I was like, I don't know.
[00:15:25] Kelly: That's a grind.
[00:15:25] Karlina: Whoever.
[00:15:26] Kelly: Yeah. Comes back from that three times.
[00:15:28] Karlina: That's a lot.
[00:15:28] Kelly: But I do know, like, once you've been through it once, like, I asked my son after his. I said something like, I'm just so scared you're going to hurt it again. He goes, mom, I did it. Like, I know that I could get through it again if I had to. I'm like, yeah, that's a wise feeling for him to say that because, like, it's true. Like, you know what it takes, and that sucks. But, like, you also know you can do it.
[00:15:51] Karlina: Yeah.
[00:15:51] Kelly: Just did it.
[00:15:52] Karlina: That was, I think, my thought. I think I gave myself, like, a week to sat. Be sad. And, like, so. And the. Why me? And.
And then I was like, I understood the grind that it took to come back. And I'm all right now. I gotta get, like, I have no choice, right, to get after it.
[00:16:07] Kelly: Well, congrats on coming back and all that. Two more years of soccer. You played there and then you didn't. Did you not leave A and M right away? And you stayed for a Master's.
[00:16:18] Karlina: Okay. I stayed for my masters. And, um, yeah, I used my Covid year and I got my master's after my four year or after my eligibility was up.
[00:16:29] Kelly: And so undergrad was like telecommunications and.
[00:16:32] Karlina: Masters in Entrepreneurial Leadership.
[00:16:35] Kelly: Okay, tell me what Blueprint Club is.
[00:16:38] Karlina: Blueprint?
[00:16:39] Kelly: Yeah.
[00:16:40] Karlina: Oh, my gosh.
[00:16:41] Kelly: Is that thinking back a lot?
[00:16:42] Karlina: Yeah, it is.
[00:16:43] Kelly: Well, I think it's cool because I saw that you were president of this club that you either founded or you ran for a little while.
[00:16:49] Karlina: So we started. I started it. It was like during 2020 when all, you know, the, like, political unrest and racial unrest was kind of happening. And also that first. That January, I want to say, was not my first semester back, but I think that was right after I had torn my acl. So my second ACL really flipped a switch in my brain because I was like, well, I can't rely on athleticism and soccer to get me far in life anymore because of injuries could ruin it and take it like that. So I think that's what made me start thinking more of, like, I need to expand into other things. And so at the time, my friends and teammates, I, we. We would all connect in the cafeteria, but I felt like there wasn't any athletic club at the time that would allow people of color, teammates of color, to kind of connect in their own space. Because we are student athletes, we have unique schedules. We're not able to go on campus and all the time and go to those organizational meetings that are already for the class, that are already established and offered those for everybody else. Yeah, exactly. Because sometimes our schedules just wouldn't align. And so, yeah, we started Blueprint.
The blue stands for black leaders who undertake excellence. And it was just like a leadership club for, again, black student athletes to have an environment to kind of express themselves, but also meet other people on different teams and connect with them.
A shared space for us to kind of. I think our pillars were educate, equip, and empower the student athletes. And so that's great. Yeah, it was fun to start, I bet.
[00:18:29] Kelly: And so then you. That probably takes you into a little bit of like, you know, adult life and like, what you're going to do. And I've met you because your work, we. We cross paths because of your work in, like, the sports and the talent marketing side of things and my marketing job. So. So tell me what you do now. Still in the sports world?
[00:18:50] Karlina: Yeah, still in sports. So now I work in talent marketing. I work for a startup boutique agency called Integrity 9 and I manage our Talent rosters and partnerships. So we only do talent marketing, athlete marketing, everything. Partnerships, sponsorships, branding, social reach that exists off the field.
And the idea behind it is to help these professional athletes. We all know you can't play sports for forever.
Help them establish a brand that will eventually help them transition into whatever is next after whatever kind of profession, sector, entertainment, whatever they exist in currently.
[00:19:32] Kelly: But when you work with them, they're current athletes.
[00:19:35] Karlina: Yes.
[00:19:35] Kelly: So you're layering in like this, not backup plan, but like a succession plan for their brand, them personally.
[00:19:43] Karlina: Right.
[00:19:44] Kelly: So it's separate from whatever team they're on, what they're doing on the field, like you said. So you're like layering in this secondary revenue stream.
[00:19:53] Karlina: Secondary revenue stream.
Something to kind of let. I feel athletes now, they want to be known for, just for more than athletes. Like, you see a lot of athletes getting into music, into entertainment, into fashion, walking, fashion weeks and designing different things. And so those are all building their brands in a way. They may not know it. They may. They might know it, they might not.
[00:20:17] Kelly: But they're paying attention, right?
[00:20:18] Karlina: Yeah, they're paying attention. And so it's kind of a second layer to their athletic career. So think of it less like as a professional athlete, you automatically have platform because you're just on this different level, elite level of sports that a lot of people can't make it to.
So that's the platform. We try to maximize the platform that you have while you have it so that when it is time to transition, you have another platform that you've spent this time building over the past couple of years of however you. However long you've existed in that career or sport that you've been playing since you've been little.
[00:20:55] Kelly: Yeah.
[00:20:55] Karlina: And now you can use your brand so people can still know you from that sport, but they might not still know you as an athlete. But maybe you're transitioning into fashion and people know you as.
Kelly used to be a women's basketball player, and now you can use those past experiences to impact your future ones.
[00:21:14] Kelly: I was a woman's basketball player in seventh grade.
[00:21:17] Karlina: Okay. Eighth May. I knew it. Yeah.
[00:21:20] Kelly: Knee injury. But yeah, basketball was not my thing.
I also wrote down that you work with Olympic athletes.
[00:21:28] Karlina: Is that true? Yeah, yeah, we do. We work with five track and field Olympic athletes. Nice.
[00:21:35] Kelly: Oh, that goes back to your.
[00:21:37] Karlina: It is a little bit of a throwback. It is a little bit of a throwback now. I love watching them on different. On their. When they're competing in their meets. I understand I don't understand the training because I'm not a professional track and field athlete, but I understand, like, the grind that it takes. And I think from being a former student athlete, it also helps me understand these professional athletes and how they think when it comes to.
Yes, they want to do partnerships and build their brand, but they also have a job to do. And I think people kind of forget that they're also people too, sometimes. So sometimes you just don't feel like doing anything, whether it's an off day or after practice. You don't feel like talking to anyone. You don't want to hop on a call, you don't want to make a caption, you don't want to take photos. And so just like trying the other.
[00:22:23] Kelly: Work after you just did your work.
[00:22:24] Karlina: Yeah. And so I think it's important to understand that piece of their mentality and.
And how it plays into their professional careers.
[00:22:33] Kelly: I love it. I love how it's all kind of wrapped up in your, like, your childhood sports, your high school experience, your college experience at A. M. And. And now it's what you do for work and help other athletes thrive.
[00:22:46] Karlina: Yeah. It's fun. I never. I always knew I wanted to work in sports. I didn't know I'd be doing this specifically in sports.
[00:22:54] Kelly: Well, it didn't exist always.
[00:22:55] Karlina: Yeah.
[00:22:56] Kelly: This is a really, like a new. A very modern way of marketing athletes.
[00:23:00] Karlina: Yeah. Really still evolving. It definitely is. It's like we always kind of compare it to sales, like partnership sales, but you are selling on behalf of a athlete versus selling on behalf of a property. And a lot of athletes will have multiple brands that they work with in different categories or sectors. And just the fact that, like. Or uniform patches, whether you're a golf athlete or a track and field athlete.
[00:23:29] Kelly: What you're wearing while you're wearing. Yeah.
[00:23:30] Karlina: What you're wearing while you're playing and how many eyes are getting on it. Exactly. And so all these things are inventory, whether it's a T shirt or patch on your shirt or a logo on your shoe bag or something that you have to carry while you're walking into the tunnels for pictures. Like, that's all inventory that you can sell. Yeah. And these athletes, they get paid to do it. Cool.
[00:23:53] Kelly: That's great. I love it. Do you love it?
[00:23:56] Karlina: This one? I do love it. I think it's like, I've always been a people person. I feel like I'm always someone that I have no problem talking to people and getting along with them. And so I think it's a good mixture of who I am personally and my personal values as a person and individual, but also like my passions, in a way. Just growing up in sports and loving to meet new people and build a community. So I think it's a good mixture of both.
[00:24:21] Kelly: When I first met you and found out you played soccer at A and M, I was like, oh, my gosh. Do you know Reagan, Emmett Smith's daughter?
Yes. And I got so excited. And then I don't know her. I just think that's cool because I love Emmett Smith. And then I also. Did you play with Jaden Shaw against. Jaden Shaw or. No.
[00:24:42] Karlina: Jaden Shaw.
I don't know if she remembers me, but I remember Jaden Shaw when she was little. Like.
[00:24:50] Kelly: We played much older than her. Same.
[00:24:52] Karlina: I'm not much older than her. I'm. I don't know how older she is.
[00:24:55] Kelly: I thought y' all same.
[00:24:59] Karlina: I'm a couple years older than her.
She.
Yeah, she's Frisco. From Frisco. She played with Solar, I want to say.
[00:25:09] Kelly: Okay, but not like on your team.
[00:25:11] Karlina: No, we weren't on the same team, but we trained with the same coach sometimes. Yeah. And we trained with the same futsal coach. So we. I went through a futsal phase, and that was my first time seeing her. And she was playing futsal, like, in international tournaments. And I remember my coach. Our coach at the time was telling me, like, this girl's legit. And so I don't even know if she knows, but I was looking at her sometimes when I was playing just to see and learn from her, even though she was younger than me, because that girl can play, like. Yeah, she's so technical and quick on her feet. And I was impressed when she was younger. So now seeing her do great things. I think she's in the NWSL championship now with the Gotham.
So, yeah, she's doing big. She's doing great.
[00:25:51] Kelly: Yeah. No, I think I saw maybe on your social or something that y'.
[00:25:54] Karlina: All.
[00:25:55] Kelly: That y' all cross paths or.
[00:25:56] Karlina: Yeah.
[00:25:57] Kelly: Or mutuals or something. I was like, man, yeah, that's. So that's when.
[00:26:00] Karlina: That's a blast from the past, because I remember we would practice at the field house and they'd put those nets up, and we would be on the basketball court playing foots on our indoor shoes.
[00:26:10] Kelly: Oh, yeah. Futsal in there. Well, I played soccer a little bit after high school and just for fun. And I love watching it. I'm a huge fan. So I wanted to talk to you and hear about your career. So thank you for coming.
[00:26:22] Karlina: Of course.
[00:26:23] Kelly: And let us peek into your soccer career. So thanks for joining us for this episode of Hustle and Pro. Subscribe on YouTube and check us out on Instagram and we'll see you next episode.
